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  • 1.  Examination reports

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 07-26-2023 08:21 AM
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    Hello,

    These questions are for financial institutions:

    Is it possible to request examination reports from our vendors?

    Do we have to make these requests thru FDIC?

    When do you consider requesting these reports? What type of vendors?

    Are these reports timely and relevant to our due diligence?

    Your inputs are greatly appreciated.



  • 2.  RE: Examination reports

    Posted 07-26-2023 08:28 AM

    Funny, I just met with the FDIC and Texas State regulators - their expectation is that we do ask for audits, exams, results, issues, action plans, etc. - the third party may not provide it and if they do not, that is a red flag. They should at least provide a memo stating that they have been examined and that there were no significant issues or such. With regard to financial institution examinations, the FDIC stated that we should go to them for examinations of other financial institutions. 




  • 3.  RE: Examination reports

    Posted 07-26-2023 08:36 AM

    We are a large financial organization and we never provide any audit/exam results or action plans as these are confidential.  We refer the client to our Annual Report and SEC 10-K which are public.  It should be a "red flag" if an organization supplies the keys to the kingdom because then the bad actors also have the same information concerning a companies weaknesses.




  • 4.  RE: Examination reports

    Posted 07-26-2023 08:55 AM

    Keep in mind, that I am answering from a banking perspective, and since the question included the FDIC, I assumed that the person was from the banking industry. With that said, I do agree that regulatory examinations are required to be confidential, I disagree on other audits and examinations - that is why there are NDAs and confidentiality clauses in the contracts. If there are risks that are identified through the exams/audits that could pose a risk to our Bank, we need to be, and are expected to be aware of them (as I said, both the FDIC and Texas stated as much during our call). Per the Interagency Guidelines issued in June: "It is also important to consider whether the third party's controls and operations are subject to effective audit assessments, including independent testing and objective reporting of results and findings. Banking organizations also gain important insight by evaluating the processes for escalating, remediating, and holding management accountable for concerns during audits, internal compliance reviews, and other independent tests, if available."

    And in the Interagency Guidance for Contracting: "Therefore, it is appropriate to consider whether contract provisions describe the types and frequency of audit reports the banking organization is entitled to receive from the third party (for example, SOC Reports, Payment Card Industry (PCI) compliance reports, or other financial and operational reviews).

    Also in the Interagency Guidance for Contracting: "It is also important for the contract to provide the banking organization with the right to monitor and be informed about third party's compliance with applicable laws and regulations, and to require remediation if issues arise."




  • 5.  RE: Examination reports

    Posted 07-26-2023 09:28 AM
    We give a listing of our critical service providers to the FDIC requesting the Report of Examination (ROE). The FDIC will ask to see the contracts and the date they were signed. This is so they can provide you with any Exam reports between now and the date they were signed.
    The FDIC can send you these reports by email with a cover letter for you to sign. These reports are strictly confidential. The vendor cannot share them or neither can you. You may only share them with appropriate team members and the Business Line. 
    During your Examination, the FDIC will ask you about the reports you were given and if you followed up with the vendor and tracked their remediation efforts.





  • 6.  RE: Examination reports

    Posted 07-26-2023 10:12 AM

    Agree 100% with Andrew's comments, our process almost exactly mirrors what he outlines.  We have a process to update ROE's from our banking regulator, the FDIC, annually.  We track our vendors that are FFIEC TSP (Technology Service Provider) or SSP (Significant Service Provider).  We submit a listing of new vendors that we think might also be TSP or SSP as part of our annual ROE request to capture any that are new.  The volume of vendors that are TSP or SSP is pretty small so currently out of our 900+ vendor inventory, 6 are considered TSP or SSP.

    We do have a process to follow-up on Tier 1 findings and required remediations.  You definitely what to ensure that your process closes the loop and documents not only that you are requesting these reports but also that you are reviewing and taking necessary risk based action. 

    TSP examination report (technology service provider) or SSP (Significant Service Provider) examination report- regulatory agencies under FFIEC examine core banking technology or service providers of financial institutions every 24 months to every 48 months depending on risk profile.  The SSP or TSP is not legally allowed to provide a copy of the ROE to anyone.

    §  TSP ROE (Report of Examination) should be requested from you banking regulator annually. 

    §  Serviced financial institutions are able to obtain a copy of the open section of the TSP ROE (not eligible for the confidential section) as long as have a valid and current contract with the TSP as of the date of examination. 

    Good discussion on this topic!

    Shelly



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    Shelly Chase
    VP Operational Risk
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  • 7.  RE: Examination reports

    Posted 07-26-2023 08:46 AM

    You can request examination reports from any vendor. However, they have no obligation to provide them unless there is a contractual agreement.  Some of our clients have contractual requirements with financial institutions to provide third-party audit reports. We recommend requiring provisions for 3rd party audits or a right to audit for any vendor that plays a significant role in financial reporting, transaction processing, critical business services, or host company or client data.




  • 8.  RE: Examination reports

    Posted 07-26-2023 09:19 AM

    HI,

     

    Is it possible to request examination reports from our vendors? Yes, I always ask for audits/exam reports.  Some vendors may shy away, but that is a red flag!  They should give a SOC report.  You need to know any findings they have had to know that information is safe.  Along with controls they have in place to protect the data!

     

    Do we have to make these requests thru FDIC? FDIC will have different reports on some vendors as well that you can request from your FDIC rep.  I have done that with a few of my vendors.  I ask for them every 2-3 years as they sometimes are not completed annually.  This is not the SOC report though.  The SOC comes from the vendor.

    When do you consider requesting these reports? What type of vendors? I request from all my mission critical/high and significant vendors.  My low vendors are ones that do not qualify for a SOC.

    Are these reports timely and relevant to our due diligence? These reports are 100% relevant to due diligence.  These reports should be within the last year or so.  I would not accept a SOC from 2020 or older from a vendor without a lengthy explanation/ discussion. 

     

    Thanks,

     

     

     

     



    Kelli Shoup | Technology Support Lead/Information Security Specialist

    The Farmers Bank







  • 9.  RE: Examination reports

    Posted 07-26-2023 09:55 AM

    Good morning All,

    Here are the responses from our Financial Institution (Please note that I am not referring to SOC reports here. Those we obtain from the vendor as part of our customer agreement. I am only referring to FDIC reports on third party service providers)

    Is it possible to request examination reports from our vendors? - Yes, however we have found it easier to request directly from the FDIC, which is our procedure. 

    Do we have to make these requests thru FDIC? - Again, you can make the request to the FDIC directly as long as you have a contract with the service provider. 

    When do you consider requesting these reports? What type of vendors? We obtain these reports from High and Critical risk vendors that are subject to the FDIC's Interagency Examination of a Service Provider. They are requested annually (however the exams may only be conducted every 18-24 months so there will not always be fresh data) and reviewed by our Vendor Management Committee. Thereafter a summary report is provided to the Board. 

    Are these reports timely and relevant to our due diligence? Yes, the FDIC highlights areas of concern and issues ECRA's (Examination Concerns Requiring Attention). Each ECRA should include a remediation plan and implementation deadline. We engage our vendors relative to all ECRA's to ensure that the provider is following these plans and timelines. Their responses and the final resolution are monitored as part of our ongoing due diligence. 

    Thank you,

    Matt M.




  • 10.  RE: Examination reports

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    Posted 07-26-2023 10:12 AM
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    I work in Banking industry.  Based on my past experience, vendors won't provide regulatory exam reports.  We need to go through examiners.  However, I have a question, except core vendor, how do we know which vendor is examined by regulatory agency? (I know all big banking core vendors are examined by regulators.)  

    I appreciate any insights/comments/feedback.  




  • 11.  RE: Examination reports

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    Posted 07-28-2023 04:14 PM
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    Thank you everybody for your inputs. 

    These responses really helped.