I'm not aware of any open source intelligence, but I am aware of a product offered by one of the insurance brokers, Marsh, that works well for manufacturing organizations. The solution they offer is called Sentrisk.
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Mark Ewert, CPCU, CIC
Director Vendor Management
Penn National Insurance
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-10-2025 06:29 PM
From: John Cornwell
Subject: 4th party reporting
Has anyone found any decent Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) tools for fourth-party tracking/discovery? I feel like I've been looking forever and it probably doesn't exist, but always nice to hear from others what they may have found or tried.
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Security and Privacy sitting in a tree.
Original Message:
Sent: 07-10-2025 04:14 PM
From: Chinyere Watson
Subject: 4th party reporting
In my experience, reporting on fourth-party vendors can be challenging due to the inherent lack of visibility into those relationships. These entities are often excluded from the formal third-party risk management program, and there's typically no direct access to their contracts or communication channels. This makes it difficult to fully assess the risks they pose, even though they may be integral to the services your third parties provide.
That said, I've seen organizations incorporate some level of fourth-party reporting into their broader vendor risk reporting framework. While the data may not be as robust, even partial insight can be valuable. Metrics I've found helpful include:
Fourth-party criticality exposure – identifying how many of your critical third parties rely on high-risk or essential fourth parties.
Geographic distribution – understanding where key fourth parties (e.g., data centers, developers, or support teams) are located, especially in regions with geopolitical or regulatory risk.
Incident reporting and missed SLAs – tracking whether service disruptions or compliance issues are tied to a fourth party.
Ultimately, the scope and depth of your fourth-party reporting will depend on your organization's risk appetite and the maturity of your vendor risk management program. But even limited visibility, when consistently monitored and reported, can help create a stronger picture of your extended vendor ecosystem.
Best of luck to you. But I'm sure you will determine the correct reporting for your program.